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All right, at seven o'clock we'll call the
City Council meeting to order. Will you

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all rise for the Pledge of Allegiance?
[Pledge, partly unclear.] [Roll call.

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Mayor Luke Merrill and council members
George Hemen, Steve Lundeen, Nick

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Pedersen, and Erika Zdon were reported
present.] I will open the floor for public

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comment. This is the place for public
comment. Hearing none, I will...

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Look for a motion to adopt the agenda. Are
there changes? Yes, there are. Good

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evening, Mayor and Council. We do have one
last-minute agenda item that was added

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today, and that is due to myself
forgetting to add it to the agenda. That

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is to add Evergreen Apartments parking
continued discussion. You'll see that as

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number one, but we added that this
afternoon, and then she's here. So I

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apologize that we added that

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Today. But then I have two more to add to
the agenda this evening. One would be

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K.10, County LRIP support request, and
then also adding a business item K.11,

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building access. Building access, correct.
Any questions or concerns about adding

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those? Entertain a motion. Motion.

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Second. Motion by Pedersen, second by
Lundeen. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any

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opposed? Motion carries 5-0. The agenda is
adopted with the additions. Next, we'll

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move on to the proclamation for Veterans
Day, November 11th. [Unclear.] Thank you

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to all veterans.

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Whereas on November 11th each year, our
nation honors the brave men and women who

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have served in the United States Armed
Forces, recognizing their dedication,

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sacrifice, and unwavering commitment to
protecting the freedoms and liberties that

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we hold dear. And whereas Veterans Day
serves as an opportunity for our community

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to express heartfelt gratitude to all
veterans, those who have served in times

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of war and peace, and those who have given
selflessly to ensure the safety of our

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nation.

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And whereas we honor the legacy of our
veterans who have served both at home and

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abroad, recognizing that their sacrifices
played an essential role in upholding the

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core values of our nation, and whereas the
City of Isanti acknowledges the tremendous

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sacrifices made by these individuals and
their families and appreciates the

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enduring spirit of service they have
instilled in our community, and whereas it

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is fitting that we take time not only to
remember the sacrifices of those who have

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served, but also to reflect on the unity
and resilience they have inspired within

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our city and our nation.

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Now, therefore, I, Luke Merrill, Mayor of
the City of Isanti, do hereby proclaim

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November 11th, 2026 as Veterans Day in the
City of Isanti, and encourage all

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residents to join in commemorating this
special day, to participate in the

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ceremonies and observances honoring our
veterans, and to express our deepest

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gratitude for their service and their
sacrifice. So thank you to all veterans.

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And we are working on Veterans Park
planning, and we're really excited about

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that, so hopefully that comes next year,
and that'll be great.

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Next we'll move on to item G.1, approval
of City Council meeting minutes from

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October 20th, 2026, Committee of the
Whole. Any questions or changes? Motion to

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approve. Second. Motion by Lundeen, second
by Hemen. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any

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opposed? Motion carries 5-0. Next, October
20th, 2026 City Council minutes. Motion to

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approve.

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Second. Motion by Lundeen. Second by Zdon.
All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed?

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Motion carries 5-0. Next, we'll move on to
the announcements. Canvass Board meeting

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Tuesday, November 10th, 2026 at 5 p.m.
City Hall will be closed in observance of

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Veterans Day Wednesday, November 11th,
2026.

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Committee of the Whole meeting, Tuesday,
November 17th, 2026, at 5 p.m. City

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Council meeting, Tuesday, November 17th,
2026, at 7 p.m. Park and Rec Board

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meeting, Tuesday, November 24th, at 6 p.m.
And we'll open the floor for county

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communications. I don't see anybody from
the county here, so we'll close that. Next

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we'll move on to council committee
reports.

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This rating is pushing jobs back their
next week sounds good any council

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committee reports uh go for it uh so
they're continuing to go over the employee

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handbook uh that's gone through the
firefighters presented with it for review

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to bring up any issues before it makes its
final approval to the board at some point

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There were six applicants for the fire
district and they passed on to one, but

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then the other five were proceeding
forward. We adjusted that firefighter

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pension fund, so it was $1,000 increase
towards their pension every year, which is

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not in the budget, but from a dividend
through the insurance through the state,

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but so long as it maintained.

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Where it's above 100% and it doesn't cost
the city or the townships anything. Oxford

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Township donated $1,000 for the use of
Station 3 when their township all was

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being reconstructed. So they more than
offset the cost of the use of the building

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over that time. Engine 3 has been sold.

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And we received a grant from the feds, a
95% match for a tanker up to

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$620-some-thousand dollars. And then there
was a donation from the Royal Association,

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a $80,000 match. They want to get a
different ladder truck, so that's being

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pursued. And that's it.

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Nick, did they apply for a grant? I'm
sorry, did they apply for a grant to get

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the ladder program? They did a ladder
truck grant in 25, which we did not

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receive. This year, we did another grant
proposal for a water tanker, which we did

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receive. We got that. So that's a 95%, 5%
match up to $620,000. I know every year

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they've been applying for that ladder
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The window for the one for this year was
before the results of last year's came in.

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So it didn't make sense to submit for the
ladder truck. So I suggest we go for a

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tinker. I heard a lot of need for a tinker
replacement. So that's what we submitted

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for and got back much faster than last
year. I know they've been milking that

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ladder truck out. They've had a lot of
hydraulic issues.

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So the Royal Association proposed an
$80,000 dollar per dollar match to try to

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replace the ladder truck that would have
had a lot of leaky hydraulic fluid and

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it's not as reliable as they'd like the
ladder to be. So they're trying to pursue

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it down that road.

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And i know they've been looking for other
letters uh the one meeting i substituted

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in for you we authorized up to i think 75
000 to get on one or somewhere around that

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and went for like a few hundred bucks over
that uh i think there's a great used

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market for those ladders because the new
ladder is between two and three million

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dollars if you can buy a new phone for 100
grand it's a bit of less savings there's a

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cost of also the lead time is another big
thing like even if you have the money the

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turnaround time on those is not fast
versus stuff is ready to go

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Okay, good update. Any questions on that,
Bernard? Any other council committee

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reports? I do have a couple. You know, we
kind of talked about the Arts and Science

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Academy, kind of the same thing. We talked
about their tenants is down. They're

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leasing their building and selling some
commercial space on Highway 65. So most of

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their meetings have been discussing budget
changes, and I think they've done a pretty

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good job and put a pretty bad spot to try
and make adjustments.

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The last Chamber of Commerce meeting here
was a business economic development

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presentation. I get that from the Chamber
and send that to you guys and basically

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looked at the state business outlook and a
lot of economic indicators that are

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concerning to businesses. I know there's a
few metrics where we ranked, you know,

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45th, 49th or last in the state for
business friendliness essentially here in

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the country.

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And that's very concerning. I thought it
was very interesting and I asked some hard

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questions because if you go down to the
LMC or if you listen to State Capitol

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hearings, the information that they
present down there is completely different

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than the information that this state
organization actually has. So I'm not

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really sure what is going on at the
Capitol and LMC. It's kind of

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embarrassing, but I'll send you guys that
information because it's very important

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that we know that...

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The whole look on business stuff is very
you know essential to the city by standing

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in the state so i'll send that
presentation you guys can look at that if

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you have any questions feel free to reach
out to me on those hearing no other yeah

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go ahead excuse me america if i could just
make another announcement i realize it's

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not on the agenda but as was decided the
last committee of the whole meeting we do

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have a budget work session following city
council so it'll be immediately following

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On the seven on the 17th sorry throwing
all sorts of curveballs today sorry about

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that okay sounds good thank you here's
another concept here yep um last time i

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talked i presented the forward budget to
you guys and next time they want to have

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to prove if anyone has anything as far as
the budget before we turn that down

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Do we have a budget with everybody's
salaries and stuff listed individually? I

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can give that to you. Sounds good.

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No other questions. We'll move on to item
K-1, Evergreen Apartments parking

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continued discussion. Do we still want
that at K-1? Yes, yes, please. Thank you.

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So, Mayor and Council, we do have Ms.
Tabitha Johnson here. She's on behalf of

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Evergreen Apartments. You may recall that
this discussion actually started in April.

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April 21st, she came to the committee of
the whole meeting to request maybe up to

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two times per year.

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Moving the vehicles from their Evergreen
apartment lot fully over so they do a full

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lot cleaner if there is an excessive
buildup of snow. There was some

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conversation from the council committee at
that time wondering if they could park

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along Wendover instead of on County Road 5
and the area there.

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And then staff had sent out a letter to
Wendover staff and they were not

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requesting to park on Wendover, but we
just wanted to make sure as a council that

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they see if they had any issues with them
parking over there. Then that was

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discussed again at Committee of the Whole
on May 21st. And at that time, the council

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committee had made the recommendation that
she make the request to the Isanti County

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Board and Highway Department about

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Temporarily parking on county road five
very infrequently but if necessary and she

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was able to hear from them and now she is
back to let you know those findings and

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potentially continue the discussion thank
you for coming in hopefully you have good

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news no okay uh tabitha johnson and beauty
by address

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The address to Evergreen? Yes, Evergreen.
Evergreen is good. Okay, it's Evergreen

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Apartments at 401 8th Avenue Northeast
here in Isanti. It's on County Road 5 and

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then City Road, which is 8th Avenue. I did
ask the county, I actually asked the

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county this spring and then just in
preparation for re-reaching out to the

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city and both times they denied
willingness to allow parking on County

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Road 5.

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So my request tonight would be one of the
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and that would be along the north.

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Along 8th Avenue, north of my property and
south of the development and south of like

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Park Road apartments as well. So, and then
just to correct, clarify what Josie said,

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I mean, I don't know how many times we
might need a full lots of removal in the

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winter too, I don't think it's for a
Minnesota winter, but my thoughts are that

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it's sometimes once a month.

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Possibly twice a month. Again, we don't
know, hopefully never, based on my

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feelings about Minnesota pictures. But
anyway, that would be my request. I

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understand that it is also a snow route,
that it is currently no parking, but I

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just simply have nowhere now at all for my
residents to move their vehicles off my

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property so that we can safely remove the
snow from our parking lots for them to...

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Uh come and go from the building and from
their parking spaces on the garage banks

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so that is my request i thought we had
discussed that they had some open area of

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that parking lot considering allowing them
to maybe call them can't hear me i thought

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we talked about

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They had some open area there off their
parking lot that they could call and

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possibly park their cars there while they
clean the line. And we talked about that

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being potentially MS4 compliance violation
because of salt and... I thought we looked

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into that on other unimproved services and
that wasn't the case. Unless apartment

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buildings run into a different statue of
some sort.

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Let me do a little research and to find
any more out about that sorry i wasn't

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ready for that i thought that's what we
discussed and i and i do remember the

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conversation about it but it was it's not
something that you know they're going to

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be a lot of burn on during the summer it
was just just for winter snoring rules can

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you remind me did we not have several
letters from the residents in that area

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stating

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That they were strongly against it due to
the driving. It's just so limited. And

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that was on Wendover. So Wendover is the
street directly across from it. It goes

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into a cul-de-sac. And we all unanimously
decided that for safety of the residents

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and their children and blind spots and
mail and garbage and all of the things

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that that was ruled out. I think the IAE
21 was when it was.

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So we're potentially entertaining the idea
of being able to plow during the winter

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months only the parcel that Evergreen
Apartments owns and that would be our

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responsibility to plow that and then to
keep that space safe and we're potentially

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going to be allowed to salt that down to
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Dirt and I mean I think we would need
probably anywhere between a dozen and a

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half to two dozen parking spaces just to
provide ample parking for those vehicles

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that might need to be off the property for
our full lot because we're not willing to

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consider the 8th Avenue. Yeah, I don't
know if we can because there's no

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emergency room. Maybe Josh can touch on
that or Travis.

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Yeah, I think it would be the chief would
be the one to, he would have to provide an

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exception for that. I would like to note
to that at Run River Apartments on Third

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Avenue, I have in the past worked with the
police department or informed them of our

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full last room removal with success.
That's the important instances that

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occasionally can grant that. Every once in
a while, like that, for example,

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somebody's having a graduation party on.

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The streets that have no parking they can
ask for that and depending on where that

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is what time of year what kind of practice
it's in order to the state you can totally

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with that okay so should you or what about
the parameters that's a whole other

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discussion topic right on the time of year
and the other issues would you have any

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concerns with that as far as a public
safety thing i mean is that a substantial

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concern in that location it is okay it's
it's challenging in that location

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especially

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From your parking lot south right that's
the biggest concern um we would have to

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really take a look at what the traffic
volume is now with the new apartments to

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see what's north of there prior to that
that probably wouldn't have been an issue

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right but i don't have i don't take much
attention to see what that traffic flow is

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north of their entrance so we could look
into that and see if that's possible as

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long as there's not a lot of traffic

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Winter has always a challenge in the
parking lot. Snowbaits get high and

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everything else, so there's a lot of
variables. And I guess before improving, I

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want to know how many school buses are
coming through there. I guess that's the

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IIS entrance. I don't know how many come
in through there, but I'm guessing they

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kind of split their route when they come
across. And I know it's a fairly high

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traffic area, but...

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I don't know i would be nice to let them
use their property for parking but i don't

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know how that works the whole salting of
the little cloud lot seems like that would

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definitely not be ideal i would say what
i'm hearing is that safety is an issue

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here with the parking on the street and so
i think if that's our consideration for

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why we're allowing parking on that area we
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It allows for an exception if we state
that in the allowance on the resolution so

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we're not opening a can form that allows
everybody to park on and improve services

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within our business and dense residential
districts and so i think that's up to you

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guys but that's what i'm hearing is that
it is a safety and that would only be for

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temporary snow removal not like full-time
parking

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I know it's probably a little more of a
headache having to fall out of the spot

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when it snows to park cars or whatever,
but I don't know if there's any other

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options. Anybody else have any creative
ideas? Mine might be silly, but if you

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could schedule it out or not, I'm not sure
how much stuff goes at intermediate school

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on weekends. It's down north of Wendover.
I mean, it's not that much difference.

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From that parking lot to there and the
crosswalk is just approved across five.

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That's probably used to the parking lot.
It's not ideal, but it's a parking lot.

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That is something that we thought about as
well as an ideal it's quite a bit further

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than being able to like go around you know
eighth avenue north of the property or

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even wind over or the options that we've
exhausted um the other thing is we do like

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to we do like to clear the lots
immediately after snow event because the

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driving on it alone just as residents are
coming and going and hacks it down very

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quickly and so um

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Time is really of the essence and so if it
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extreme example to wait until the weekend
when it could be melted by then again

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based on Minnesota winters but it's a good
idea and it might have to be you know if

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we try the route of clearing the just
leveling and then clearing

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The parcel north of the property and if
that gets full or is insufficient that's

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going to have to be an option or you know
harvest or the gas station or like i'm

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just anticipating like what am i going to
tell my residents when i've you know

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exhausted all of our options and they have
to walk or get their vehicle towed or

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whatever so which is not ideal

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Yeah, I guess my other concern would be
like the ground is starting to get hard

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and so in order to create a surface

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On that personal north of our property
could pose some difficulty as well. In my

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experience, you find that on dirt, if you
do get a crust of snow on it, it's a lot

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better than salting and sanding it.
Because once you start salting and sanding

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it so bad, salting it, that gets into the
ground and it softens the ground. It makes

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it worse. I mean, I'm saying that they
went and opened up an area and there are

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some people that get over there and move.

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Unfortunately, it takes one person to ruin
for everybody because they're not willing

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to go out and ensure the car gets moved. I
mean, myself, if I'm going to get my

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driveway clean, I want to get everything
out of my driveway so it's clean. I want

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to do it one time, I don't want to do it
ten times. That's generally how I am. So,

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I almost think that that's probably the
most viable situation at this point.

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I wouldn't suggest salting it. Sand it.
I'll leave that to the vendor to decide

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what's going to be. The saying is, when
you do put salt on it, it creates

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moisture. It'll create ice, it'll create
softer ground. It just has a tendency to

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do that. If they can get in and out of the
parking lot and they have gotten a nice

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little cut on the dirt.

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They should be able to drive on anything
as well as drive on a asphalt. So if

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there's six inches of snow on it, if they
can get through the parking lot, they

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should be able to get through that. So
should I wait to hear back on approval on

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this? I think we just try it. I think
that, like Stephanie said, there's a

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cutout there. And as far as I'm concerned,
that's your property. You should be able

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to use it how you want it. So in my
opinion, that's up to the group here,

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though. And we don't have guidelines about
parking.

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In the grass or we're going to make
exceptions. We do have a guideline about

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working in the grass. And so I would say
that's the exception that you'd be making

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in a special circumstance. And I think
we're not setting a precedent if you're

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saying it's for safety, temporary or being
forced to know when we're told. I would

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say salting is no for MS4. Right. So
there's other guidelines we want to make

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sure we're still maintaining, but clearing
it for the ability.

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The residents to safely access their homes
and hopefully just like you're stating it

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would be once maybe twice or maybe zero
yeah like hopefully it is just such a

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minimal yeah there's so many circumstances
that we let vehicles park off the road

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within the city radio events this is
temporary it's going to be frozen ground

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And there's really not any other safer
options, all the other options, as opposed

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to safety risks. For a long-term solution,
I guess, would be getting that asphalt.

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It's that way the ground isn't a concern
down the road. It has been. I have entered

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it in my CapEx budget annually for the
last, like, 20 years. And so this will

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probably accelerate it. And hopefully it
won't get cut in next year's CapEx budget.

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I don't know if I was a council member at
the time or before, but I did call a staff

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one time on parking on the grass and
parking on improved surfaces because we

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require it in most of our establishments.
And they did research and they actually

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came back and had to agree with me, and I
know it's on record that it actually is

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more environmentally correct to park on
gravel or...

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Grass than it is to park on asphalt or
concrete for many different reasons. Yes.

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Do we need a vote on this, Ms. Wood? Yes,
I would because it is deviating from city

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code. All right. Well, I'll personally
make the motion to allow for this

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temporary parking for snow removal only
without any use of salt.

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Just for winter. Emergency still removed.
Yes. That's my motion. I'll second it.

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Motion by myself, seconded by Lundeen. All
of the members say aye. Aye. Me opposed?

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Motion carries 5-0. Good discussion and
thank you for coming. Hopefully that works

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out great for you. Alright, next we'll
move on to business item K2. This is

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Woodland Park playground safety audit
discussion. I believe this will be Josh.

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So while state law doesn't mandate a
safety audit for a public park.

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But conducting one especially for
playground equipment is standard municipal

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practice performing an initial audit by
the certified playground safety inspector

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in terms of compliance with national
safety standards and alliance with the

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union of minnesota city trust
recommendations staff has received a

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safety audit for fifteen hundred dollars

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Just a discussion to see if you guys want
to move forward with that or thoughts or

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concerns? So I had a question on that. You
know, I talked to the LMC attorney's team

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about the playground stuff, and they told
me that it's something like $300 typically

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for a safety inspection. Is this one more
because it's bigger or there's just more

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uncommon elements, or have we gotten any
other quotes on that? This was a local

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company that does their...

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Certified ASTM certified and they're going
to do a full park inspection. I don't know

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if it's already a park that's up, if they
can come in for $300 and just do a

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standard one for less. Could I request
that you maybe reach out to the LMC legal

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team because they said they had resources
on those certified playground inspection

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companies because I looked into it for
those used playground sets. So maybe we

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could reach out to them and see if they
have recommendations for a better price.

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That sounds fair. The Minnesota Recreation
Park Association used to also carry a

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list, so that's another option to check
into, too. Okay, yeah, I would look it up

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online and see if there's any other bids,
because that bids substantially more than

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what the League of Minnesota City's parks
people told us, or told me.

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There have been some talks in the past
about doing other playgrounds in this same

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kind of vein and then we also have those
other duty playground sets so i'm

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wondering if it would just be worthwhile
just to get someone on who's able to do

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inspections internally so like maybe he's
talking like training a public works

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person someone or certified off the park
and recreation uh it's not going to want

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to do that but i know this board has been
certified in the past

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But I'm not saying to put it back on our
website. If we had one in the past, maybe

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it would be worthwhile doing it again. If
we got at least three or more playgrounds

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that would be needing inspection, then it
would be worth the cost also just to do it

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internally. Staff's thoughts on that idea?

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I believe it's a two-day course you can
take, and then on the third day you take

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an exam at a testing facility. I believe I
took my exam. I don't think I took the

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course, but I think I was able to take the
exam. I think I did it in 2014. And you

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have to recertify and do some continuing
ed, recertify every three years, I

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believe. I'm not sure if those
requirements have changed, but roughly the

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course.

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We got a discount being a member of the
Minnesota Park and Rec Association, so I'm

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not exactly sure the cost, but I think
it's probably around that $500 to $700.

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And I do know a formally certified
playgrounds park inspector that lives in

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the community that's involved with the
playoffs and any stuff, I might be able to

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see if they would want or be able to do it
too. So, you know, with the cost that LMC

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said around $300, I figured, well, but I
don't know where those $1,500 stuff seems

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high. So, I don't know that having the
staff do it, maybe it's worth it, I don't

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know. There's $300, I don't know, the cost
was on the certification process, so.

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If there's something 300 or lower then we
could also ask the league about if there's

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additional liability if the city does it
and they are certified versus going with a

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hired contractor to do it we can ask that
question too okay i think i suggest that

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he goes and looks into people functions
your league can maybe look into being

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certified to do it and then you talk to
the other guy i think that there's too

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many moving gears here to say

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Yep, I agree. I just feel, you know,
public works, if we have a public works

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person do it, they get paid for
certifications, they get paid increase for

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it, so it may not be as beneficial to
spend that money at that point, because

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that's...

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It's not they don't just get that pay bump
just for when they want to expect it's

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throughout the year so it's you know i
think we're asking spending more money on

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your employees when where they could be
able to win their job rather than going on

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looking at parking on it josh yeah a lot
of this is obviously if we were going to

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do it we'd go get other quotes but is do
you want us to get it done

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And then basically the resolution would
say, yep, Public Works built a park. We

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would get it certified. If we built more
parks, we would certify it. And we'd

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obviously get quotes and compare and go
with the cheapest quote like we always do.

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Okay. I would motion that we go ahead with
it, but we're not, I don't want to enter

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into any contract at this point. Yeah,
that's just one quote. I think it would be

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a ballpark. I mean, we need to further.

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I think i think if we get certified as
it's safe i think that helps insurance way

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less liability yeah liabilities it's 100
liability and i'm always a person i stay

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away from liability you know so i i make a
motion that we look in doing that making

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that uh i don't know you want to call it a
uh past resolution

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To do an annual or biannual certification
on the park.

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Well, so how it works with our trust
insurance, I ask this question. Basically,

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we have an umbrella policy that covers any
sort of injury that's out there. And the

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only way we would ever be held responsible
is if we're notified in writing that

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there's an issue at a park and we're
negligent and don't fix it.

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Um otherwise there's a car bought in there
for accidental things this stuff fails i

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mean you can't protect against everything
so that's covered in our umbrella

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insurance i would think we should put it
on a rotation even be every three years

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every five years it's just something that
i think our parks our public work staff

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does do that stuff already you know they
can tell if the board's rotten like it's

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we do a monthly inspection

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Is it monthly monthly or yearly inspection
on it now but we're not certified but like

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i said technically doesn't mandate this to
be certified it's not required it's just

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liability but jess you're just talking
about this one part correct because you

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guys a lot of this resolution me in fact i
think because if the city builds the park

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like public works yeah it might be one we
for sure we want to do so like i was

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saying that it's that if we build a park
or put up used equipment

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We can amend the resolution of what the
motion is if that does pass. Just that

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anything that is built by Public Works
will be inspected and we'll get low as

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close as we can. Or possibly be trained in
house. That sounds good so there's a

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motion on the floor.

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Second. Motion by Lundeen. Second by
Pedersen. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any

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opposed? Motion carries 5-0. Next, request
for public use of facility for hearing

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test discussion. So this was something
that I added to the agenda. I know Ms.

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Elaine Fischer wanted to have a discussion
on this, so you're welcome to come on

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forward and just state your name and
address for the record and give us an idea

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of what you're looking for, Elaine.

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I'm Elaine Fischer and I live at
[residential address omitted] and I'm here

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representing the Isanti Lions who have
been serving your community for over 50

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years. We have just added a new service
project which is hearing for the community

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and I'm here to ask since the Friends of
the Library are no longer in the City Hall

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building

406
00:35:51,630 --> 00:35:57,970
That would be a room that Isanti Lions
could use once or twice a month on a given

407
00:35:57,970 --> 00:36:05,470
day, which works with city staff for us to
come in, whether we come in 9 to 3, 9 to

408
00:36:05,470 --> 00:36:11,030
noon, 1 to 3, or whatever. It's just an
opportunity that we want to take advantage

409
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:17,970
of when we have the hearing equipment to
serve our community, because I really

410
00:36:17,970 --> 00:36:19,850
believe that the need is out there.

411
00:36:21,450 --> 00:36:27,810
We've already done three events, but we're
looking to have it someplace where we have

412
00:36:27,810 --> 00:36:28,710
the traffic flow.

413
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,920
So i personally think it's a good idea um
and i don't know what what staff thinks

414
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,900
about it is that room is there anything in
that that one particular room that can't

415
00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:45,480
be used by the public or any reason that
that room couldn't be used i know we use

416
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,540
it once in a while for for meetings and
obviously you have to kind of schedule

417
00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:51,680
around that or have some sort of
consistent schedule like maybe the first

418
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,520
wednesday of the month or whatever type of
thing

419
00:36:54,890 --> 00:36:59,830
So we do have it set up for like a meeting
space it's got tables chairs and we do

420
00:36:59,830 --> 00:37:04,910
have the ability to lock it from the
inside staff ways so people in that room

421
00:37:04,910 --> 00:37:10,850
can't get into the unaccessed unauthorized
access area i don't foresee an issue with

422
00:37:10,850 --> 00:37:13,290
that but we should establish a policy

423
00:37:13,950 --> 00:37:18,150
We don't have a policy currently in place
for that room. We do have a policy which

424
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:23,250
had been amended in 2021 for the chambers
to not be used by the public. So it's kind

425
00:37:23,250 --> 00:37:27,910
of gone back and forth. They can be used,
but only during the daytime, not to cause

426
00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:33,010
a burden on staff. So I think it's
definitely doable, but I do recommend that

427
00:37:33,010 --> 00:37:36,490
the city establish a policy because if you
do it for one group, if this is a

428
00:37:36,490 --> 00:37:41,150
nonprofit group, it'd be difficult to say
other nonprofit groups can do it for the

429
00:37:41,150 --> 00:37:41,830
same reason.

430
00:37:43,470 --> 00:37:49,160
Or you would need to establish that this
was maybe the one exception you're going

431
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,640
to make, and the policy would say such
that because of the parameters that you're

432
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,750
identifying. Right. And it's a community
good for a space that might not

433
00:37:56,750 --> 00:38:02,370
necessarily always be used. So I think
there's a good use for that there. It

434
00:38:02,370 --> 00:38:05,730
previously had been used for the library
for years, and then the library had the

435
00:38:05,730 --> 00:38:07,630
funding reduced, so they pulled that out
of here.

436
00:38:10,090 --> 00:38:14,010
Guess i'm okay with it personally i think
it's a good thing to use the space that we

437
00:38:14,010 --> 00:38:18,690
have now whether we want it would we
prefer to be in here i don't know if that

438
00:38:18,690 --> 00:38:22,490
would be easier or if you prefer what do
you think this would be in here or over in

439
00:38:22,490 --> 00:38:27,830
that other office space or i apologize how
often was it once or twice a month or

440
00:38:27,830 --> 00:38:30,110
whatever works for you um

441
00:38:31,410 --> 00:38:35,330
I would say that typically when Ms.
Hillesheim is doing her developmental

442
00:38:35,330 --> 00:38:39,070
meetings and developer meetings for
different project-related things, those

443
00:38:39,110 --> 00:38:43,730
typically happen on a Tuesday. As long as
it doesn't fall on a Tuesday, because

444
00:38:43,870 --> 00:38:48,030
those can get very busy for meetings in
there, I don't foresee an issue with it

445
00:38:48,030 --> 00:38:53,370
being out there and that it's maybe
private. You know, I don't know. It really

446
00:38:53,370 --> 00:38:57,350
doesn't matter. It could be in here as
well if that's what the policy stated. It

447
00:38:57,350 --> 00:38:58,930
doesn't really matter, whatever.

448
00:38:59,690 --> 00:39:03,790
Is easiest for the group of whatever the
council decides. I make a motion that we

449
00:39:03,790 --> 00:39:11,060
allow them to use the old library area
space, not conflicting with Stephanie's

450
00:39:12,450 --> 00:39:19,950
planning meetings. Any meetings that would
have to be all scheduled. I'd say yes,

451
00:39:19,950 --> 00:39:24,470
let's change our ordinance on that. I
think if I could draft a policy and bring

452
00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:28,970
it back to the next council meeting,
assuming I have time, or at least...

453
00:39:29,710 --> 00:39:34,990
By the meeting in December. Just because,
so I would have time to research, make

454
00:39:34,990 --> 00:39:39,830
sure that we can't exclude any groups that
may be of very similar nature or something

455
00:39:39,830 --> 00:39:43,570
like that. So I think to like draft that
and get that before the council before we

456
00:39:43,570 --> 00:39:45,010
make a potential motion.

457
00:39:47,160 --> 00:40:06,880
[A council member described the benefit of
Lions school vision screenings. A child's

458
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,000
health details are omitted.]

459
00:40:12,020 --> 00:40:17,540
[Vision-screening example continues.] So
the idea that we could maybe give this to

460
00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:20,080
the community as well, you know.

461
00:40:26,590 --> 00:40:30,610
Eileen, if you could send me details on
it, just send me an email with that. I'll

462
00:40:30,610 --> 00:40:35,570
get that drafted up. Okay, I appreciate
it. And another thought, I want to thank

463
00:40:35,570 --> 00:40:43,570
you for allowing us to put the canister
out in your canister window there. In the

464
00:40:43,570 --> 00:40:47,850
community of Isanti, we've picked up over
700 pairs of glasses.

465
00:40:48,330 --> 00:40:52,530
And I'm sorry to say we get more at the
liquor store than we do at City Mall, but

466
00:40:52,530 --> 00:40:59,290
they're all grateful. And the last week in
September, we had lions, 11 lions from

467
00:40:59,290 --> 00:41:05,870
Minnesota that took eyeglasses out to the
Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota.

468
00:41:06,070 --> 00:41:11,850
And in February, we'll be sending another
delegation from Minnesota and Wisconsin to

469
00:41:11,850 --> 00:41:16,930
Guatemala. So those glasses are really put
to use, and you wouldn't believe.

470
00:41:17,890 --> 00:41:24,290
The feedback we get for servicing those
people. Awesome. Also, I want to thank you

471
00:41:24,290 --> 00:41:27,570
guys for the bench at the New Woodland
Park with the Lions logo on it. That was

472
00:41:27,570 --> 00:41:32,000
pretty cool to see out there. We were just
unfortunate that it was probably in

473
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:37,880
storage for a year and a half, two years.
But we were glad to do it. Awesome. Thank

474
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,300
you. Thank you. Thank you.

475
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:45,020
All right, we'll move on to item K-4,
resolution to consider approving a request

476
00:41:45,020 --> 00:41:49,020
for angle parking abutting 1st Avenue
Northwest. Stephanie. Good evening, Mayor

477
00:41:49,180 --> 00:41:54,820
and Council. The new owners, which is here
tonight, of 104 Main Street West, are

478
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,460
putting the finishing touches on their
buildup for the Creamery Kitchen and

479
00:41:58,460 --> 00:42:03,140
Taphouse. And as part of that, I'm sure
you all remember the angle parking that

480
00:42:03,140 --> 00:42:08,240
used to occur regularly just across the
street here. In our ordinance, it

481
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:10,590
specifically states that...

482
00:42:10,590 --> 00:42:13,990
Angled parking abutting the street is
permitted specifically along First Avenue

483
00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:18,490
Northwest and Southwest, subject to the
final approval of council. And so just to

484
00:42:18,490 --> 00:42:23,670
make sure all of our i's are dotted and
our t's are crossed, we're going to have

485
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:27,990
you guys look at this again for this new
restaurant, just to make sure it's

486
00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:33,510
approved and you're okay with it. Myself,
Public Services Director Becker and

487
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:39,230
Engineer Cook went out there and met with
[name unclear] to...

488
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:44,900
Look at the layout just to make sure that
it was going to be safe and still met some

489
00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:52,740
of our standards. And our engineer who
likes to work with us and be flexible did

490
00:42:52,740 --> 00:43:00,060
state that he thought that 45 degree
parking along there would be feasible as

491
00:43:00,060 --> 00:43:04,800
long as a few things are met. And so the
applicant did provide us with a great

492
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:09,160
diagram here. The recommendation is for 45
degree parking.

493
00:43:09,620 --> 00:43:13,980
To meet our standards for 45 degree
parking which are set within our ordinance

494
00:43:13,980 --> 00:43:20,880
and so just have a 12-foot curve length
and for a nine-foot standard stall width

495
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:26,240
that's the standard set in our ordinance
and then no more than up to no more than

496
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:30,140
five feet into the right away of the
diagonal line and so

497
00:43:31,220 --> 00:43:36,180
It can go into the right of way back deep
then also outlined within the resolution

498
00:43:36,180 --> 00:43:40,460
is just the maintenance agreement and we
discussed the city maintaining the right

499
00:43:40,460 --> 00:43:46,630
of way as we normally do and we did
discuss that the second public service

500
00:43:46,630 --> 00:43:51,770
director record can go into it more in
detail but removing the work at the second

501
00:43:51,770 --> 00:43:56,670
pass through to clean up as they do and
then the Creamery Kitchen and Taphouse

502
00:43:56,670 --> 00:44:03,170
taking care of their property on the area
for clowning as well any questions

503
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:10,370
I have no parking as long as I can
remember. So I have absolutely zero

504
00:44:10,370 --> 00:44:14,830
problems with it. Josh or Travis, do you
have any concerns? You looked at this, I

505
00:44:14,830 --> 00:44:17,470
assume. I mean, you guys have been around
long enough to remember when it was like

506
00:44:17,470 --> 00:44:22,230
that before, too. Yeah, no concerns for
me. We'll end up plowing it the same as

507
00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:29,400
always. Years ago, we plowed it the same,
but it was angle parking then. Yep. Chief,

508
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:29,780
same.

509
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:36,980
Yeah, there's no concerns. Okay. Motion to
approve it. I'll second. Motion by

510
00:44:36,980 --> 00:44:43,220
Lundeen, second by myself. All in favor
say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries

511
00:44:43,220 --> 00:44:47,020
5-0. Thank you, Nick. That's exciting.
Thank you, staff, for looking at that.

512
00:44:47,020 --> 00:44:52,550
Next we will move on to item five, a
resolution to consider approving the

513
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:54,990
seasonal placement of a
handicap-accessible portable restroom at

514
00:44:54,990 --> 00:44:56,690
Bluebird Park for the winter months.

515
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:02,060
Good evening again um due to the continued
and year-round public use of the park

516
00:45:02,060 --> 00:45:06,120
thanks to the sledding hill and other
great amenities for the winter out there

517
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:12,300
um i know you guys had directed staff
previously just to look into the

518
00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:16,860
feasibility of maintaining one of our port
properties in the park for the winter

519
00:45:16,860 --> 00:45:21,480
season and so we did some research on that
and keeping it handicap accessible

520
00:45:22,140 --> 00:45:27,920
Um toilet out there throughout the season
which would be to be along the side of the

521
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:33,220
um amphitheater just for so it doesn't get
blown over we know the winds and winter

522
00:45:33,220 --> 00:45:38,640
can be a little gusty around here in that
part um but to maintain it there will be

523
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:44,320
about 90 per month our average for the
rest of the year is 60 per month but due

524
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:50,180
to the anna freeze required and such um
during our strong winters um it's just

525
00:45:50,490 --> 00:45:58,650
Takes them more um solution um to maintain
it throughout the season and we'll still

526
00:45:58,650 --> 00:46:02,930
provide access as we always do it doesn't
really um act they're already following

527
00:46:02,930 --> 00:46:07,150
the paths and we'll have it adjacent to
that path as well so we did work that out

528
00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:14,410
And I will say that $90 a month is still a
very good bargain even for summer months

529
00:46:14,410 --> 00:46:20,830
on that style of port-a-potty. So I think
it's a good deal. I think it makes sense

530
00:46:20,830 --> 00:46:23,290
right there. It's used for illuminated
sanding and that's letting go.

531
00:46:27,390 --> 00:46:31,630
What months are we talking? So just
maintaining it through the rest of the

532
00:46:31,630 --> 00:46:36,530
year. So usually the port bodies go out
from this time of year. They're gone.

533
00:46:36,770 --> 00:46:41,430
Yeah, they left like a week ago. Yes, and
so we just missed it by the way. So if

534
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:46,730
approved, then we'll have it brought back
up until this one. So we'll just fill that

535
00:46:46,730 --> 00:46:51,010
gap. Will it be located by sledding hill
or the way around it? Yep, on the west

536
00:46:51,010 --> 00:46:52,270
side of the amphitheater.

537
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:02,550
On the third half or third avenue side
yeah but that's where all the trees are or

538
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:10,530
will it just be it'll it'll be accessible
along the path over on that side it's just

539
00:47:10,530 --> 00:47:20,020
filled it's all filled right now yeah with
lights right so where would it go um isn't

540
00:47:20,020 --> 00:47:25,840
it already over there did they fill oh he
was gonna drop it off i think it i think

541
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,780
there's one over there on some that
actually on the east side

542
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,340
I think it's there. He said he's going to
drop it off. I talked to him today or

543
00:47:34,340 --> 00:47:41,040
yesterday. Where is it? It's on the east
side of the empty. Right by the pool sheds

544
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,180
where people are going to sell their stuff
right next to them. No. It's a ways away

545
00:47:45,180 --> 00:47:46,320
from now. I think it's on the sidewalk.

546
00:47:48,010 --> 00:47:52,970
Kind of where the trailer was, probably.
We can move it to wherever you guys want.

547
00:47:54,750 --> 00:47:59,530
Okay, perfect. I'd like to make a motion.
[Brief crosstalk.] Motion from Hemen,

548
00:47:59,830 --> 00:48:04,210
second from Zdon. All in favor say aye.
Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries 5-0.

549
00:48:04,690 --> 00:48:10,150
Next, item six, resolution to consider a
request by Delightful Acres Weddings and

550
00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:15,110
Events to consider approval of a
conditional use permit for 27600 Polk

551
00:48:15,110 --> 00:48:15,610
Street Northeast.

552
00:48:16,430 --> 00:48:20,990
Good evening again. Delightful Acres has
submitted their conditional use permit. It

553
00:48:20,990 --> 00:48:21,730
was recently...

554
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:28,500
Reviewed at public hearing by the planning
commission and recommended for approval to

555
00:48:28,500 --> 00:48:33,280
move forward for this restaurant
application they're going to be using it

556
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,940
specifically at this time for mobile
bartending services or for bartending

557
00:48:37,940 --> 00:48:41,480
services are relying on mobile units right
now to do that and so this will allow them

558
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:48,200
to offer the services directly themselves
and the findings of fact and site map are

559
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,300
all within the packet

560
00:48:49,730 --> 00:48:53,430
And this is as presented to the Planning
Commission, correct? Correct. Okay, great.

561
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:56,630
This is a great opportunity for this
business. They've been wanting to do this

562
00:48:56,630 --> 00:49:00,310
for a while, so I'm happy to see us
talking about it, provide another service

563
00:49:00,310 --> 00:49:05,470
for their facility, which is awesome. That
means they're going to have to get their

564
00:49:05,470 --> 00:49:10,650
own liquor license? Yes, that would be the
next step. I make a motion to approve it

565
00:49:10,650 --> 00:49:15,130
as long as they get their own liquor
license. [Brief crosstalk.] All that has

566
00:49:15,130 --> 00:49:16,750
to be approved before they can.

567
00:49:20,690 --> 00:49:26,070
Motion from Lundeen, second by Hemen. All
in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion

568
00:49:26,070 --> 00:49:31,630
carries 5-0. Next item K.7, resolution to
consider a request by Capstone Homes for

569
00:49:31,630 --> 00:49:33,290
annexation by property owner [continues].

570
00:49:38,890 --> 00:49:43,470
Um there's a request by capstone homes for
annexation by property home owner petition

571
00:49:43,470 --> 00:49:52,570
and zoning map amendment located at pid
050210102 prior for incorporation into the

572
00:49:52,570 --> 00:49:57,390
plans Sanbrook Greens development it's a
very northern parcel on the east side of

573
00:49:57,390 --> 00:50:02,490
their development and it's um as part of
their purchase and so it's the only parcel

574
00:50:02,490 --> 00:50:05,890
that's not within city limits it actually
is an interesting parcel

575
00:50:06,410 --> 00:50:17,940
Because it's connected to one of the or no
but it is an interesting person so it will

576
00:50:17,940 --> 00:50:22,060
be zoned as the rest is our one single
family residential most of it will be

577
00:50:22,060 --> 00:50:30,260
backyards and this was as presented at
planning commission as well yes this was

578
00:50:30,260 --> 00:50:34,440
also recommended for approval by the
planning commission at the public hearing

579
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,780
Motion to approve. Motion by Lundeen,
second by Hemen. All in favor say aye.

580
00:50:41,780 --> 00:50:48,640
Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries 5-0. Next
resolution, or item eight, sorry, K.8,

581
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,240
Moir Park playground removal quote
discussion. Mr. Becker. Good evening,

582
00:50:53,890 --> 00:50:59,250
Mayor and Council. I have a couple of
quotes for the removal of the Moir

583
00:50:59,250 --> 00:50:59,750
playground.

584
00:51:01,970 --> 00:51:07,050
I got them right here to hand it out.
Staff received two, one from Boyer

585
00:51:07,050 --> 00:51:13,590
companies in the amount of $10,100. The
second quote was in safety first in the

586
00:51:13,590 --> 00:51:22,320
amount of $9,446.30. Staff also asked for
reinstallation estimates.

587
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:31,840
Our companies did not quote that. They
didn't want to do that. Safety First did

588
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:41,770
give us a quote. If we did it in the year
2026, it was $14,851. And if we didn't do

589
00:51:41,770 --> 00:51:48,890
it in 26, they gave us a quote for
$19,851. They also did say that the

590
00:51:48,890 --> 00:51:54,130
estimate wasn't good to reinstall it if
they didn't do the removal on it.

591
00:52:00,850 --> 00:52:05,110
And this is a thing that, you know, we got
the park. I was able to negotiate the

592
00:52:05,110 --> 00:52:10,510
parks, the two place structures for free.
And I know that with the Bauer company's

593
00:52:10,510 --> 00:52:15,690
quote, there was $1,500 there for, like,
transportation. And Josh Becker and I have

594
00:52:15,690 --> 00:52:20,630
talked about if we do it that way and we
have public works reassemble these parks,

595
00:52:20,650 --> 00:52:25,430
that the public works employee would
probably be down there with our trail and

596
00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:28,210
they just transport stuff back for three
days or whatever it takes.

597
00:52:29,230 --> 00:52:33,450
Remove those items that way that public
works employee would know how they go back

598
00:52:33,450 --> 00:52:39,610
together kind of be able to overwatch that
i know there was some desire i made a post

599
00:52:39,610 --> 00:52:43,610
about this and there was some desire for a
couple local local people to help put this

600
00:52:43,610 --> 00:52:48,050
back together there were a couple people
that had some experience with putting

601
00:52:48,050 --> 00:52:52,070
these together that were interested in
potentially helping out and being involved

602
00:52:52,070 --> 00:52:54,870
with this as a you know community type of
event

603
00:52:55,670 --> 00:53:00,490
So there's that option as well uh there's
a few different ideas and concepts and

604
00:53:00,590 --> 00:53:13,710
open to discussion or ideas yeah that's
what we discussed i just i can't see

605
00:53:13,710 --> 00:53:20,010
public works because their time involved
in that isn't going to be 14 000 right

606
00:53:20,010 --> 00:53:22,610
plus you knock out another 1400

607
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:29,340
Actually, if you less than that, you take
it off 1,500 plus 1,400 because their

608
00:53:29,340 --> 00:53:37,130
other goal was 94 or 46. So you knock out
$3,000 off of it. You know, I mean, if you

609
00:53:37,130 --> 00:53:45,620
look at it, that's $3,000 less than safety
first, roughly. I'm comparing safety first

610
00:53:45,620 --> 00:53:52,100
to the dollar. So you knock out $1,500 off
of that. That's the value down to, what,

611
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:52,620
$6,500?

612
00:53:53,560 --> 00:54:00,660
To be 8600 so it's a 8 000 base um 1500
for removal and 600 for disposal concrete

613
00:54:00,660 --> 00:54:06,100
concrete so that's the ten thousand
dollars so the total price of gear on 8600

614
00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:10,200
if our public works staff transports it
kind of like we had discussed well that's

615
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,720
all it gets me in trouble because i see it
four thousand dollars right that's what

616
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:18,120
i'm looking at as a quote that's
misconsuming that's why i highlighted the

617
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:22,140
10 100 because it's kind of confusing
right yep so really we are

618
00:54:22,660 --> 00:54:31,230
Comparing the $10,100 to the $9,446.30.
However, Bauer is willing to allow Public

619
00:54:31,230 --> 00:54:36,590
Works to haul it back and save that cost.
That brings it down to $8,000.

620
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:48,000
We have to have it's down in bloomington
so to haul that concrete back it'd be

621
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:54,480
pretty it's not worth it i think yeah i
don't think it's worth it and there is a

622
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:59,680
price on the safety first one they gave a
price for hauling it too by saving as well

623
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,880
so i mean not that i want to go down to
bloomington and

624
00:55:16,100 --> 00:55:20,520
But for the labor of public works, how
long do you anticipate or would you

625
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:25,420
anticipate two guys or four guys? I don't
know how many you send down there to

626
00:55:25,420 --> 00:55:26,240
dismantle it.

627
00:55:26,500 --> 00:55:30,400
No well they'd disappear so i would
probably just send one guy one guy to

628
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:35,240
watch and i think they figured it'd be
three or four days to tear down and then

629
00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:39,920
each day he could bring a load back was
kind of a thought if we are going to do it

630
00:55:41,580 --> 00:55:47,360
But I do know that I know it's $14,000 is
a lot of money to put the park up, but

631
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:54,540
public works time adds up too. And then it
also puts us behind, like Women's Park did

632
00:55:54,540 --> 00:55:59,380
put us behind on a lot of our everyday
stuff that we did catch up on to get back.

633
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,200
I'm not saying we can't do it or anything
like that, but it's some consideration.

634
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,000
This time of year.

635
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:13,160
You wouldn't be putting it up this year.
So it would be $19,000, not $14,000. So

636
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:18,820
you're talking, I mean, that'd be over 200
hours of public works time to cover that

637
00:56:18,820 --> 00:56:25,790
cost. And I think if you have somebody
that has somewhat knowledge of doing this,

638
00:56:25,790 --> 00:56:33,110
even being a gopher for public works, just
being a gopher, you know, hold this ranch,

639
00:56:33,250 --> 00:56:39,430
grab me this, whatever, that saves them
time as well. That's just the way I look

640
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:39,730
at it.

641
00:56:42,220 --> 00:56:47,200
Do you have time to do this project well
it's just like woodland park you do it

642
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:56,250
when you have time but if you guys said we
want this part put in in june or july i

643
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:04,730
think so this park equipment is going to
sit outside basically like woodland when

644
00:57:04,730 --> 00:57:08,390
we really had the time was after like
jubilee days and all that

645
00:57:09,710 --> 00:57:14,290
And I anticipate that we could find
volunteers. So I think, in my opinion, we

646
00:57:14,290 --> 00:57:18,270
have the first step, which is the removal
and the getting it here. We have, you

647
00:57:18,270 --> 00:57:20,930
know, we need to get this stuff here. It
needs to be out of that site before

648
00:57:20,930 --> 00:57:26,390
winter. That was part of the stipulation
with getting that park stuff donated. Now,

649
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:30,190
I don't think there's any way we reinstall
it in 2026. We haven't talked about it

650
00:57:30,190 --> 00:57:32,990
with park board where it would go. So I
don't think, I think that's off the table.

651
00:57:33,450 --> 00:57:36,110
But I think we get it here with the
removal.

652
00:57:37,020 --> 00:57:40,220
Do the transport with the public works
person. So that way, worst case, if we do

653
00:57:40,220 --> 00:57:43,540
have public works do it when they have
time, like we do with Woodland, would end

654
00:57:43,540 --> 00:57:47,640
up working out pretty good. At least they
know how it goes Camp Hart type of thing.

655
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,380
Also, we did talk about, you know, the
potential for reimbursement from the park

656
00:57:52,380 --> 00:57:56,380
dedication funds for the reinstall of the
new park. So that will go back into the

657
00:57:56,380 --> 00:58:01,060
general fund. So that would offset the tax
cost of these, so those employees are

658
00:58:01,060 --> 00:58:04,440
going to be directly from the park fund
because you're paying, you're doing a park

659
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:04,860
service.

660
00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:10,950
So that's another potential option for
that. I have a huge concern with them

661
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:15,750
taking it down and then waiting six to
eight months to reinstall it. And also the

662
00:58:15,750 --> 00:58:20,690
fact that it would be sitting outside, I'm
assuming. All the equipment. I mean, I

663
00:58:20,690 --> 00:58:25,680
know it's outside. I know it's outside
thing, but I know how I am. And if I learn

664
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:31,630
something new, I need to use it, wait
eight months. I don't know what other

665
00:58:31,630 --> 00:58:34,070
options we have. Either that or we just
don't do it.

666
00:58:35,670 --> 00:58:39,290
I don't think it's going to be rocket
science. You don't think that, but I put

667
00:58:39,290 --> 00:58:43,690
together two parts. We put together the
one on South Passage, and I put together

668
00:58:43,690 --> 00:58:54,540
the one on HELOC with my entire family.
It's just a lot of pieces. A lot. I'm not

669
00:58:54,540 --> 00:58:57,780
opposed to it. I think it's a great deal.
I think we found a really good thing. I'm

670
00:58:57,780 --> 00:58:58,280
just saying.

671
00:58:59,590 --> 00:59:03,090
You're asking someone who doesn't have a
ton of time and then you're also saying

672
00:59:03,090 --> 00:59:05,970
when you take this apart don't forget
about it when you do it in eight months

673
00:59:05,970 --> 00:59:09,670
and then two weeks later you come back out
and then two weeks later we have time and

674
00:59:09,670 --> 00:59:16,190
then two weeks later. It took how long to
make Bill Woodland? It was around 1,500

675
00:59:16,190 --> 00:59:25,880
hours. And you started collecting things
from start to finish was a year and a

676
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,000
half. You collected things over the
winter, built some things over the winter.

677
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,000
And we told him there was no rush.

678
00:59:33,650 --> 00:59:38,490
As you have time. I don't think this park
is going to take 30 minutes. No. It should

679
00:59:38,490 --> 00:59:44,090
be 60 to 120 hours. I guess I wasn't
asking for hours. I was asking how did it

680
00:59:44,090 --> 00:59:48,910
fit into your schedule. Well, it affects
the schedule some. That's what I was

681
00:59:48,910 --> 00:59:52,710
saying. Like when we're doing, obviously,
Woodland Park was way bigger, but it puts

682
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:58,810
me a lot of the jetting and the clean
cleanup and the stuff that we would be

683
00:59:58,810 --> 01:00:06,200
doing in that time puts us behind. I don't
know what schedule. We fit it all in.

684
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,920
[Speech unclear.]

685
01:00:33,130 --> 01:00:36,830
And i like i said i anticipate that we
could have volunteers help with this i

686
01:00:36,830 --> 01:00:40,910
mean there's all sorts of communities that
do these types of reconstruction i mean

687
01:00:40,910 --> 01:00:44,150
we've had two parts here in the city by
standing like you just mentioned so i

688
01:00:44,150 --> 01:00:47,610
think it's doable i think i don't think
rebuilding it is difficult i'm more

689
01:00:47,610 --> 01:00:51,930
concerned about we're sending someone down
there to watch it to be part of it but

690
01:00:51,930 --> 01:00:56,250
then to sit on that knowledge for maybe
eight months or more i think it's

691
01:00:56,250 --> 01:00:59,230
concerning but there i would hope that
they would

692
01:00:59,740 --> 01:01:04,360
Tag or labels. Thank you. Thank you. He
said he tags and bags and labels

693
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,780
everything so it's correspondingly. Part A
goes with part A and you go in there.

694
01:01:07,860 --> 01:01:11,480
That's not Costco. It was Little Tights,
right? What's that? It was Little Tights.

695
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:16,800
It is a Little Tights Playgrounds too. It
should be. It should be. You can get

696
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:24,490
support. You can find instructions. It
should be reinventing anything. We've got

697
01:01:24,490 --> 01:01:28,350
to get this thing out of there if we
haven't decided. I think any way you look

698
01:01:28,350 --> 01:01:31,330
at it, I think our better bet is to have
all the companies.

699
01:01:32,470 --> 01:01:34,470
[Speech unclear.]

700
01:01:37,970 --> 01:01:42,490
And even if, so if we send a public works
person down there, we're saving $1,500

701
01:01:42,490 --> 01:01:46,950
off. So that time, say if they do it, you
know, three eight-hour days, 24 hours,

702
01:01:46,950 --> 01:01:52,110
you're still ahead on the $1,500 saved. So
even if you send a guy down there and

703
01:01:52,110 --> 01:01:55,050
you're just transporting stuff, you're
still ahead. And they don't have the

704
01:01:55,050 --> 01:01:59,030
knowledge of how it came apart. Are we in
depth, though, if, I mean, two or three

705
01:01:59,030 --> 01:02:02,590
days where they're driving down there and
then you have time to be out doing their

706
01:02:02,590 --> 01:02:04,510
job, like, is that actually coming out
ahead?

707
01:02:05,140 --> 01:02:10,040
Yeah, well, we could also, like I talked
about, potentially take from, you can

708
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,660
allocate from the park dedication fund. We
talked about this with Woodland Park in

709
01:02:13,660 --> 01:02:17,840
the past, too. If they put all that time
in, that's time that was associated with

710
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,700
building the park. So that could be then
brought back from the park fund into the

711
01:02:21,700 --> 01:02:25,920
general fund so that it would actually pay
for that employee's time for that park

712
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:30,020
through the park dedication dollars, not
through taxpayer money. Could that be true

713
01:02:30,020 --> 01:02:33,340
for the dollar, too, if they transport?
That would be park dedication.

714
01:02:33,850 --> 01:02:38,310
Right yeah so i just don't know if it
would be worth the the cost savings of

715
01:02:38,310 --> 01:02:46,910
having them play dry out three or four
times but then they have the knowledge of

716
01:02:46,910 --> 01:02:53,830
how camp park so that's but that is the
question it's all label tag bag and

717
01:02:54,160 --> 01:03:04,990
standard equipment set that's not unique
or anything what do you what do you feel

718
01:03:04,990 --> 01:03:06,310
would be more advantageous

719
01:03:06,990 --> 01:03:13,390
Well, Safety First builds playgrounds, and
I think their price is pretty good with

720
01:03:13,390 --> 01:03:20,560
the removal of everything. It's, what,
almost $1,000 cheaper. They would deliver

721
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:26,220
it all here, from what I remember from
that. And they also have a price for

722
01:03:26,220 --> 01:03:31,280
moving and hauling, so if you were going
to say, we're hauling it back, I should

723
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:36,230
ask them what their price is if we haul it
back. What's the Safety First, what's the

724
01:03:36,230 --> 01:03:37,210
negative charge on that?

725
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:44,520
They're giving us a CPC discount or
something like that? Because we're part of

726
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:53,730
that program. It's a cooperative pricing
contract agreement price. Similar for

727
01:03:53,730 --> 01:03:58,840
product like when there's a state bid on
vehicles, there's contracts for other

728
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:04,290
things as well. And Sandy first is okay
just taking it out and moving it and not

729
01:04:04,290 --> 01:04:10,410
building it? Yes. They were just only
going to give us the price for the rebuild

730
01:04:10,410 --> 01:04:11,950
if they removed it.

731
01:04:12,310 --> 01:04:14,310
The removal price doesn't matter.

732
01:04:15,190 --> 01:04:21,210
So with this, if they were to, say, remove
it and we didn't decide whether we're

733
01:04:21,210 --> 01:04:24,490
going to have them reinstalled or not,
would they be okay with what you

734
01:04:24,490 --> 01:04:27,630
anticipate since they removed and brought
it to us, they'd be then okay in the

735
01:04:27,630 --> 01:04:30,590
spring if we decided to go the route with
them installing it, they would probably be

736
01:04:30,590 --> 01:04:35,930
okay with that, I assume? Yes, that's all
he was saying. They were going to give us

737
01:04:35,930 --> 01:04:39,990
a huge discount for the installation if we
wanted to get it put back up this fall.

738
01:04:40,190 --> 01:04:42,010
They'd do it as winter or whatever. Right.

739
01:04:42,730 --> 01:04:47,470
The price may change without it happening
this fall but they would still do it as

740
01:04:47,470 --> 01:04:51,870
our understanding i mean i don't are we
comfortable trying to do it this year

741
01:05:03,350 --> 01:05:07,650
Either that or we just try and save the
money and have a community built for it

742
01:05:07,650 --> 01:05:08,210
instead of this.

743
01:05:22,930 --> 01:05:28,750
It has been done versus it being dragged
out over a week until they have time

744
01:05:28,750 --> 01:05:32,030
available. So it wouldn't be the parking
in a complete state where you have kids

745
01:05:32,030 --> 01:05:37,210
play on playground that's not complete.
That's fair. Like they were doing at the

746
01:05:37,630 --> 01:05:43,480
skate park building. Watch for the ground
prep.

747
01:05:52,060 --> 01:06:06,440
So that's where you would have to decide
where they're going too. Yep and then I

748
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:10,620
was thinking like for one that Sandy Hills
would want the more middle-aged type stuff

749
01:06:10,620 --> 01:06:14,340
correct? I don't remember what's there.
The younger one okay.

750
01:06:14,810 --> 01:06:18,490
And then i was thinking i don't know we
haven't talked about the whisper ridge uh

751
01:06:18,490 --> 01:06:22,150
there's some green area there and there's
not a playground set there um right now

752
01:06:22,150 --> 01:06:25,250
it's just a tennis court a basketball
court yeah it's awesome what is that

753
01:06:25,250 --> 01:06:32,460
cottonwood street yeah i know that there
are people in the in that neighborhood

754
01:06:32,460 --> 01:06:34,700
that they love the idea obviously so

755
01:06:38,190 --> 01:06:43,230
I think we can discuss that at another
time. What do we want to do? Does it have

756
01:06:43,230 --> 01:06:47,750
safety first? Just go out and do the whole
thing and public works can take care of

757
01:06:47,750 --> 01:06:52,510
the other business? I mean, I don't
disagree with Nick. I mean, when they

758
01:06:52,510 --> 01:06:57,120
start getting pinched for time, things get
pushed, and that's not going to get done.

759
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,780
If you think we can make a decision, I
mean, they've got to go down and take this

760
01:07:00,780 --> 01:07:04,860
thing out. I'm sure we have a few days to
make a decision where we're going for it.

761
01:07:05,710 --> 01:07:09,510
If you go with safety first, at least you
have the option of then installing it.

762
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:17,100
Yeah. Or reinstalling it. Would you have a
guy down there for safety first? No. Okay.

763
01:07:18,890 --> 01:07:23,110
I don't think I would at all, unless you
guys are trying to save the hauling, which

764
01:07:23,110 --> 01:07:28,110
I thought the number on there, like the
state was saying, doesn't seem like it's

765
01:07:28,380 --> 01:07:32,870
worth it really. It'd be a wash. Really?

766
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,820
And they number and take it because he
said the same thing. They're going to

767
01:07:37,820 --> 01:07:43,160
number and take it because they're putting
that up to you or whatever you want. The

768
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:47,540
more I like the idea of taking versus
doing the whole thing, getting done.

769
01:07:48,300 --> 01:07:53,280
And doing it this year, does it save
$5,000? I 100% agree with that. Only

770
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:59,460
because I have built that part of it. It's
not as easy. I know A goes with A, but

771
01:07:59,780 --> 01:08:05,540
there's thousands and thousands of A in A.
I know you guys can do it, but I just

772
01:08:05,540 --> 01:08:09,320
think it's time, and you can't start and
stop these projects. It's very

773
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:13,860
time-consuming to get back into it and put
it all away and bring it all back out.

774
01:08:14,540 --> 01:08:17,520
Was living something would stay and get
here and play with it either way unless

775
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:24,010
you fence it off america like well or we
would say over and over get out of the

776
01:08:24,010 --> 01:08:27,490
skate park and then like what i thought it
was open and then eric would say you

777
01:08:27,490 --> 01:08:32,230
thought because you had to hop the fence
it was open the fence is awesome it

778
01:08:32,230 --> 01:08:36,110
doesn't work out so not if they want to
give you something so i'll let the motion

779
01:08:36,110 --> 01:08:42,940
go with safety first the whole shebang and
it will determine places for it in a later

780
01:08:42,940 --> 01:08:43,780
date tonight

781
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,000
I would assume i mean we don't really have
a later date if they're trying to do it

782
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:53,280
this year still well they got to get the
contract that's going to take time park

783
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,960
park should be involved park and rec
should be involved where it's going and

784
01:08:57,670 --> 01:09:01,310
like i said if they don't i didn't care
less if that's what they want to do if

785
01:09:01,310 --> 01:09:06,710
they remove it then we can have them put
it up and let's say they don't get it they

786
01:09:06,710 --> 01:09:11,230
say oh we can't get it up this year well
then we can say well hey we want it up

787
01:09:11,230 --> 01:09:15,340
okay i see what you're saying okay i don't
know

788
01:09:22,150 --> 01:09:27,630
Just just for clarification I mean is the
council willing to if we do move forward

789
01:09:27,630 --> 01:09:31,990
with this and then the park board
identifies the locations at their November

790
01:09:31,990 --> 01:09:38,500
24th meeting do you just they're only a
recommendation board so that typically it

791
01:09:38,500 --> 01:09:42,780
has to then come back to council for
approval on December 1st I select and make

792
01:09:42,780 --> 01:09:45,800
that decision because they never know
works better

793
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:57,090
By far. In my opinion, let that make that
decision. That's in three weeks. That's

794
01:09:58,150 --> 01:10:06,920
possible. Yeah, you can do a special
department record. I suggest that my

795
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:08,980
motion would be take you first, the whole
thing.

796
01:10:09,610 --> 01:10:13,970
But park and rec maybe have a special
meeting park and rec let them determine

797
01:10:13,970 --> 01:10:19,170
where they want it second would we want to
come back to council on the 17th no i just

798
01:10:19,170 --> 01:10:24,530
let them make that decision can we decide
that the one part though we're going for

799
01:10:24,530 --> 01:10:33,680
sure can we do that i'm i would say so i
mean i agree with you but i just

800
01:10:34,710 --> 01:10:38,550
No, no. No, just one of the parks. We
already have identified that as a park as

801
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:43,690
lacking some amendments. It's been kind of
ignored for quite a while. You use that

802
01:10:43,690 --> 01:10:50,530
park often, correct? I mean, I used to
call it the Sandburg a lot. But it needs

803
01:10:50,530 --> 01:10:54,930
attention, and I think that we've already
discussed it several times that that park

804
01:10:54,930 --> 01:10:58,750
needs something. We have something. We can
move on it.

805
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,400
I'll be fine with that amendment. I see
any park kids go and let them figure out

806
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,020
the other one. Josh, do you know which one
they want to go there?

807
01:11:08,530 --> 01:11:23,670
So to clarify, which one do you want?
[Crosstalk about which structure should go

808
01:11:23,670 --> 01:11:35,190
to Isanti Hills.] I would agree that maybe
the smaller one. All right, I accept that.

809
01:11:35,190 --> 01:11:35,830
That's the other thing, too.

810
01:11:39,610 --> 01:11:44,410
I think given the time constraints then
that would allow safety first to serve if

811
01:11:44,410 --> 01:11:47,470
they dismantled it within two days they
could start building that one as we wait

812
01:11:47,470 --> 01:11:51,210
for park board to come back with another
one but i do think it's a good idea to

813
01:11:51,210 --> 01:11:54,570
have a special meeting we they didn't have
a meeting last month just because we

814
01:11:54,570 --> 01:11:57,450
didn't have a quorum at the opening time
so it would make

815
01:11:59,950 --> 01:12:04,130
Same cost difference if we were to add
one. Holy moly, look at government moving

816
01:12:04,390 --> 01:12:14,120
fast. Let's go. Motion by Lundeen, second
by Pedersen. All in favor say aye. Aye.

817
01:12:15,790 --> 01:12:20,650
Any opposed? Motion carries 5-0. Next we
have the county LRIP discussion. [Brief

818
01:12:20,650 --> 01:12:25,150
crosstalk.] Oh, Woodland Park sign. Oh,
Woodland Park sign. Sorry.

819
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:31,700
So this was something that has been a
common question. At least a handful of

820
01:12:31,700 --> 01:12:35,960
times people have asked about putting some
sort of a child at play signs. We just did

821
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:40,420
it at a different park a month ago. I
don't know if you guys would be interested

822
01:12:40,420 --> 01:12:45,620
in putting this at that park location. I
don't know that this one would be as

823
01:12:45,620 --> 01:12:49,980
visible because I think cars are parked
along the street. They're blocking more of

824
01:12:49,980 --> 01:12:54,280
that visibility where a sign would go. But
I'm not opposed to...

825
01:12:56,610 --> 01:13:03,540
I have no problem with putting them on all
parks. I don't either. I make a motion to

826
01:13:03,540 --> 01:13:12,670
put one sign there and maybe revisit to
win all the parks. Two signs, again, one

827
01:13:12,670 --> 01:13:17,210
on each side of the road. And then the
same sign I put out from the room out of

828
01:13:17,210 --> 01:13:17,510
this, correct?

829
01:13:18,710 --> 01:13:22,590
Yes. I think so. Nick, what were you going
to say? Well, I was going to say the

830
01:13:22,590 --> 01:13:26,450
motion is for all, but Riverside Park
doesn't mean because that's... I just said

831
01:13:26,450 --> 01:13:35,460
for this park and then revisit all the
parks later. That's what I stated. So

832
01:13:35,460 --> 01:13:39,340
there's a motion from Lundeen, second from
Hemen. Yes. All in favor of that motion,

833
01:13:39,340 --> 01:13:47,920
say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries
to 5-0. Next, we have County LRIP, I

834
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:48,780
believe. Yes.

835
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:56,060
So I did pass out a map with a draft
letter example. So the Isanti County

836
01:13:56,060 --> 01:14:00,780
Highway Department engineer, Justin
Bergerson, had reached out. They are

837
01:14:00,780 --> 01:14:06,640
applying for an LRIP grant for
reconstruction of County Road 45, which is

838
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:11,740
from CSAH 5, east of the city of Isanti,
north to CSAH 19. You can see the map.

839
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:16,480
This project area is outside of city
limits. However,

840
01:14:17,150 --> 01:14:22,030
Part of their application, as all
applications, even when the city did it as

841
01:14:22,030 --> 01:14:26,790
well, is you do have a better chance if
you have letters of support. And then the

842
01:14:26,790 --> 01:14:30,230
city of Isanti would be recognizing the
long-term importance of County Road 45 as

843
01:14:30,230 --> 01:14:36,030
a north-south connection east of the Trunk
Highway 65. Its role in supporting the

844
01:14:36,030 --> 01:14:43,470
growth and just mobility of vehicles on
the east side of Isanti would be a

845
01:14:43,470 --> 01:14:43,970
great...

846
01:14:45,130 --> 01:14:48,030
Help for them to try to get this LRIP
grant.

847
01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:02,540
So this, I brought this forward. Josie and
I could have, you know, collaborated on

848
01:15:02,540 --> 01:15:06,120
this and then wrote that letter. But I
brought it forward specifically because we

849
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:10,420
had talked about in one of our last
meetings about an LRIP grant for the local

850
01:15:10,420 --> 01:15:15,360
match on the federally funded projects of
heritage from Railroad Avenue, from the

851
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:20,940
railroad to the bridge essentially. And
this would actually, my thought was this

852
01:15:20,940 --> 01:15:24,180
LRIP grant would compete with ours. Is
that something that...

853
01:15:24,470 --> 01:15:28,130
It would not it would not um so counties
compete against other counties for

854
01:15:28,130 --> 01:15:32,390
elaborate funds but cities compete against
other cities for elaborate funds okay okay

855
01:15:32,390 --> 01:15:37,050
so that was the question so is anybody
opposed to writing a letter of support for

856
01:15:37,050 --> 01:15:44,920
this like i said i think we need to start
playing a little nicer when it comes to

857
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:48,500
some of the stuff we're saying we're
figuring out all these developments and

858
01:15:48,500 --> 01:15:52,160
there's nothing nope we're not going to do
it this gal comes in asking about parking

859
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:53,540
on it nope we're not going to do it

860
01:15:54,880 --> 01:16:00,060
Grow up. Be responsible for the community.
Now you're coming to the city of Asani and

861
01:16:00,060 --> 01:16:05,660
asking us to go order our way to give them
a rep, you know, to give them a rep on the

862
01:16:05,660 --> 01:16:11,700
back to do something. I just feel you're
not playing nice, but you want something

863
01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:15,420
from me, but you don't want to give me
anything in return. I agree 100%. We've

864
01:16:15,420 --> 01:16:19,480
had a lot of these discussions about not
being allowed access. I mean, we have a

865
01:16:19,480 --> 01:16:23,020
really prime piece of real estate just
north of the Holiday gas station.

866
01:16:23,370 --> 01:16:26,530
That the county doesn't want to give
access for development there off with the

867
01:16:26,530 --> 01:16:30,650
county road so you know i i've been saying
this also so i really appreciate steve

868
01:16:30,650 --> 01:16:40,600
it's i don't whatever they do 145 has zero
to do with the city by standing if

869
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:46,120
anything else they're going to divert
traffic coming out to five up down five to

870
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:53,840
65 that is all they're going to do and
technically that's their road anyway so as

871
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:54,560
far as i'm concerned

872
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,340
Unless you want to start playing nice, I
don't know what you want from me.

873
01:16:58,740 --> 01:17:03,960
I mean i think i hear what you're saying i
do think that we work collaboratively as

874
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:08,720
best as possible if the city is going to
apply for an LRIP grant and the county did

875
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:13,020
not write a letter for us and they did
when we applied we had to apply when we

876
01:17:13,020 --> 01:17:17,300
did the roundabout um it would make it
difficult for the city to get the grant

877
01:17:17,300 --> 01:17:22,040
without their support so i do think they
also benefited from it as much as the city

878
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:26,040
they did benefit as well but i do think
that

879
01:17:26,510 --> 01:17:29,730
We should write them a letter of support
for this and keep that relationship

880
01:17:29,730 --> 01:17:33,770
positive. I still think you should be told
that maybe it's time to start playing

881
01:17:33,770 --> 01:17:38,790
nice. Because this has nothing to do with
the city. Well, let's make that time right

882
01:17:38,790 --> 01:17:44,690
now. We can start being nice and maybe we
let them know. No, it's not us being nice,

883
01:17:44,810 --> 01:17:48,650
it's them. I know, we're just showing
them. But I mean, that was the point, is

884
01:17:48,650 --> 01:17:55,610
it's every time they've gone to it and
it's a legitimate reason for them to do

885
01:17:55,610 --> 01:17:55,810
it.

886
01:17:56,500 --> 01:18:04,820
And it's a no. That's what irritates me.
And like I said, that has zero to do with

887
01:18:04,820 --> 01:18:09,280
the city of Iceni. The roundabout had
everything to do with the city of Iceni

888
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:15,140
and the county. It wasn't like we were
asking them to do something for us on one

889
01:18:15,140 --> 01:18:21,360
of our own private streets. They benefited
from that as much as the city did, if not

890
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,440
more so, because their share got cut down
quite a bit of money.

891
01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:30,410
I think the city council has actually had
more cooperation from the county than any

892
01:18:30,410 --> 01:18:36,050
council previous. I think we've done a
fantastic job. I think when the county

893
01:18:36,050 --> 01:18:40,290
came here and sat in this chamber and we
all worked out the roundabout, I thought

894
01:18:40,290 --> 01:18:46,250
we done work really well. I think our
relationship has definitely came a long

895
01:18:46,250 --> 01:18:50,510
way over the last few years. The
communication takes time. You can't just

896
01:18:50,510 --> 01:18:52,030
expect everything all at once.

897
01:18:54,590 --> 01:18:59,530
I definitely agree we'll go ahead with
this letter and we are looking for our own

898
01:18:59,530 --> 01:19:06,190
letters well maybe we start with that we
would love to write you a letter for our

899
01:19:06,190 --> 01:19:13,800
letter just as we are also we'll be also
looking for a letter yeah i'm not sure but

900
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:19,920
we will it's very possible we will be so
okay yes okay does anybody want to make a

901
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,580
motion on that we'll make a motion

902
01:19:27,750 --> 01:19:34,070
Motion from Hemen, second from Pedersen.
All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed?

903
01:19:34,370 --> 01:19:42,000
[Voice vote.] Motion carries 4-1. Good
discussion, guys. I appreciate it. Next

904
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:49,150
item, building access. Yep, this would be
number 11, and this is brought forward by

905
01:19:49,150 --> 01:19:50,070
Councilmember Pedersen.

906
01:20:03,350 --> 01:20:07,650
I know there was a time where that had bad
and that got taken away, and if we can, we

907
01:20:07,650 --> 01:20:16,620
had, we sent that prohibition. This
building? Yes. I don't remember a summer

908
01:20:16,620 --> 01:20:21,780
having 14 years on here. I've never had
access to this building. Never. And

909
01:20:21,780 --> 01:20:28,000
14-year office? That was just the mayor
only. Correct. It wasn't anybody else.

910
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:28,660
Different mayor.

911
01:20:29,300 --> 01:20:33,620
Different mayor i mean it was other mayors
i thought it was the council i read that

912
01:20:33,620 --> 01:20:40,680
just no no never never had by ever had
access to this building and nor do i want

913
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:45,660
one yeah i agree and i think we all have
access to this building by a part of when

914
01:20:45,660 --> 01:20:46,240
we come in

915
01:20:52,510 --> 01:21:00,150
Can you elaborate, I guess, what kind of
building access you're looking for? I come

916
01:21:00,150 --> 01:21:04,090
early, I get stuck in the rain just
waiting to come inside. For meetings?

917
01:21:04,370 --> 01:21:11,770
Yeah. I haven't got that money. You don't
have to have the truck running?

918
01:21:13,970 --> 01:21:17,750
Okay yeah i wasn't sure if you were
looking for like i.t access or okay not

919
01:21:17,750 --> 01:21:23,110
limited stuff just i i was an impression
that city council had the ability to new

920
01:21:23,110 --> 01:21:26,270
building if that's never been the thing
i'm not trying to reinvent something the

921
01:21:26,270 --> 01:21:31,610
mayor used to in fact was that 28 20 20 20
ish

922
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:39,080
And I'm not aware of access to the
facility. Depending on which mayor you're

923
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:44,100
talking about, some had access to maybe
the outside back door, not all of them,

924
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:49,820
but definitely access to the office. But
yes, never a council member that I'm aware

925
01:21:49,820 --> 01:21:54,440
of. I know a couple of mayors had access
to that back door, which I don't agree

926
01:21:54,440 --> 01:21:59,040
with because we're all equal up here. The
mayor has access. The rest of us should

927
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,320
have access. As far as your point,

928
01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:10,660
Well, can't you call Josie or one of the
staff and have them come let you in if you

929
01:22:10,660 --> 01:22:18,130
come here early? Do I? Should I meet you?
Well, I'm just trying to find a workaround

930
01:22:18,130 --> 01:22:22,510
because obviously you're closing that door
after hours. So the city council meeting

931
01:22:22,510 --> 01:22:28,390
that starts at 6.30, you're closing at 5.
We close them at 4.30, lock about 4.30.

932
01:22:28,490 --> 01:22:28,710
Okay.

933
01:22:30,220 --> 01:22:35,140
I haven't called the NASCAR access before.
If I need to again, for some reason, I

934
01:22:35,140 --> 01:22:41,240
haven't called NASCAR. Josie has came, or
Katie has came, or Stephanie has came, and

935
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:45,000
let me in. My thought process is if we're
trusting with the budget and a lot of

936
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,760
other responsibilities, I just don't
understand why can't you trust with the

937
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:47,960
key.

938
01:22:49,550 --> 01:22:53,190
And i don't need full building access
because i don't want to have to provide

939
01:22:53,190 --> 01:22:58,250
alibi for a certain area but as far as i'm
trying to access those immediate doors and

940
01:22:58,250 --> 01:23:02,770
if i come early and it's known as here
that i don't just sit around and wait i

941
01:23:02,770 --> 01:23:08,420
don't i i totally hear it i just don't
think it's necessary remember i just had

942
01:23:08,420 --> 01:23:16,620
14 years of i've been there i've never had
access to that it's a good question so any

943
01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:23,140
other discussion or do we need a vote on
it do you want to vote there

944
01:23:35,170 --> 01:23:40,840
The only thing I can add to that, and I'm
not saying whether I'm for or against it,

945
01:23:41,220 --> 01:23:47,640
but not every employee has access. For
example, a liquor store doesn't have

946
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:53,500
access, but employees are governed by the
personnel policy, and it does outline.

947
01:23:54,960 --> 01:24:00,480
Uh repercussions is probably not the right
word but disciplinary actions if you do

948
01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:04,840
something unauthorized um like stephanie
can't just come in here and have a kid's

949
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:08,780
party kind of thing like there's rules
against not that you would but i mean

950
01:24:08,780 --> 01:24:14,100
there's rules against that she can face
disciplinary up to termination none of

951
01:24:14,100 --> 01:24:15,580
those rules that are

952
01:24:16,590 --> 01:24:21,150
She has to follow as an employee is
applicable to elected officials because

953
01:24:21,150 --> 01:24:27,820
you're not employees. So that would be the
one challenge. What would be the, other

954
01:24:27,820 --> 01:24:31,800
than taking it away, there isn't any kind
of like if you don't follow the rules,

955
01:24:31,820 --> 01:24:37,440
here's your discipline. Which I wasn't
asking for access to the full building,

956
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:43,460
just through that one office and that one
door. That goes through though. Does it,

957
01:24:43,620 --> 01:24:44,380
would it have to?

958
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:54,420
The council that office door could be
locked from the outside it cannot no it

959
01:24:55,130 --> 01:25:00,470
locks from the inside not that we can't
put a different lock on the door i mean

960
01:25:00,470 --> 01:25:02,830
there is that possibility but it locks
from the inside

961
01:25:07,500 --> 01:25:25,920
[A council member raised concerns about
access to city records.]

962
01:25:27,410 --> 01:25:33,810
I would agree. I think that if we had, and
I do like this idea, but it does come with

963
01:25:33,810 --> 01:25:40,270
a cost, where you knew who accessed what
doors by everybody having a fob system on

964
01:25:40,270 --> 01:25:44,250
all doors, then I think that you would
know who went in there. Did they go into a

965
01:25:44,250 --> 01:25:47,210
room that they weren't supposed to, you
know, things like that, but we don't have

966
01:25:47,210 --> 01:25:50,490
that. But I think that's an enduring cost
that we don't need to do because we've

967
01:25:50,490 --> 01:25:51,430
never done it before.

968
01:25:55,150 --> 01:26:00,170
I stayed in my piece. I don't think it's
necessary. I agree. Sorry, Nick. I know

969
01:26:00,170 --> 01:26:04,150
there's been times for me where it's like,
man, it sure would be nice, like,

970
01:26:04,310 --> 01:26:09,110
sometimes, like, if I have to go, if I'm
working here from 4.30 until 6 for a

971
01:26:09,110 --> 01:26:11,810
meeting, it's like, oh, I've got to go
into the car, and now there's the doors

972
01:26:11,810 --> 01:26:15,930
locked, and now I've got to have somebody
let me in. Like, there's, it is a little

973
01:26:15,930 --> 01:26:22,840
bit annoying, but it's a maybe once in a
month type of thing, you know, so. And

974
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:24,380
your board will produce that office.

975
01:26:25,330 --> 01:26:32,310
So if you want to hit your IRB, but you
can call and ask and use it. All right.

976
01:26:32,830 --> 01:26:36,590
Erica, do you have any opinions? I don't
want to keep. Okay. Sounds good. Well,

977
01:26:36,670 --> 01:26:40,780
that's a pretty strong consensus. Do you
want to call a vote? Good discussion.

978
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:45,700
Sounds good. Well, good discussion, guys.
I appreciate it. So next we'll move on to

979
01:26:45,700 --> 01:26:50,040
the consent agenda. Are there any
questions or comments on the consent

980
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,830
agenda? Yeah. Good news.

981
01:27:16,860 --> 01:27:23,280
I guess that's our bond payment. Is it a
bond payment?

982
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:30,820
The omaha the large bill that we sent out
first national bank at the 297 yes which

983
01:27:30,820 --> 01:27:34,220
it is i don't know off the top of my head
exactly which yes it's a bond service

984
01:27:34,220 --> 01:27:38,280
payment i can't say exactly which bond
number off the top of my head but it's a

985
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:39,300
bond payment okay

986
01:27:44,530 --> 01:27:48,530
I would just like to give a shout out.
First to Illuminate Isanti or Isanti

987
01:27:48,530 --> 01:27:52,630
Together, that group, for getting
donations. Lit’l Sprouts Child Care, Plugs

988
01:27:52,630 --> 01:27:57,310
Garage, and Smile Doctors LLC all donated
to Illuminate Isanti. I'm looking forward

989
01:27:57,310 --> 01:28:00,610
to that event this year. Are there any
more volunteer days planned for that that

990
01:28:00,610 --> 01:28:05,430
have been posted or that are scheduled? I
know Carla and Brittany Anderla have been

991
01:28:05,430 --> 01:28:09,230
out there basically every day. Okay. Or
we're meeting in their garage.

992
01:28:10,670 --> 01:28:15,410
So i don't know about large ones um now
that public works has put out the big

993
01:28:15,410 --> 01:28:20,110
stuff we're ready to go again so so if
there's if the public sees people out

994
01:28:20,110 --> 01:28:24,310
there working can people stop by and give
a hand you are welcome at any time any

995
01:28:24,310 --> 01:28:30,470
place when we're out there we'll use you
okay sounds good any other questions or

996
01:28:30,470 --> 01:28:36,560
comments on the consent agenda no i motion
to approve the consent agenda

997
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:44,520
Motion by Zdon, second by Hemen. All in
favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion

998
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:49,600
carries 4-0 with Steve in the hallway. So,
I don't know how we do that, but... Just

999
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:56,850
like that. Okay, sounds good. Any other
communications? Otherwise, we'll move into

1000
01:28:56,850 --> 01:29:00,050
closed session. All right, I'll entertain
a motion to move into closed session for

1001
01:29:00,050 --> 01:29:03,670
labor negotiation strategies pursuant to
Minnesota Section 13D.03.

1002
01:29:05,740 --> 01:29:09,640
Second. Motion by Pedersen, second by
Zdon. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any

1003
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opposed? The motion carries 4-0 with Steve
in the hallway.